How to protect family members of men who do not keep their d... where it belongs?

Question

As everybody knows, being discovered Hiv pos/Aids , Expats are sent home or being deported depending on their Nationality (different story). Do you know how many people (wives/kids) have to die because the deportees are not saying why they got deported?
As everybody knows, the Aids virus is mostly transmitted through sexual contact. If a deportee does not tell his family why he got deported, picture the consequences. This happenes mainly to Pakistanis, Afghanis, Indians etc., where being hiv pos is still a stigma. Now, would it be wrong to avoid innocent people to die, to report these people to their local authorities concerned (if any)?

How to protect family members of men who can not keep their d...where it belongs?

To many wives and children died already because the returning husband/daddy did not say why he came home.

Answer 1

I do not understand how this is even possible...There are condoms available everywhere here. If they have to betray their wives at least they should have the decency to use some protection.

Anyway:

Working out an information system with the affected consulates would be a first step. In most countries HIV infection has to be reported to the health authorities anyway so creating a reporting system from here to the other countries would be a first step. Together with the affected governments a plan should be developed how to get this information to the families of the infected. This information system should go hand in hand with a massive awareness campaign aimed at those who are most at risk: the wives. There have to be information campaigns everywhere and anytime, until everybody has internalized the fact that until the homecoming husband hasn't had a HIV test he cannot have unprotected relations with his wife. I can clearly remember when HIV was first discussed in the media. There where a lot of TV spots, Posters, TV discussions, information booths etc.

There where health care workers visiting schools and other public institutions. This was so much that there was no escaping the information. But it had the effect that during the years to come everybody was aware of the disease and infection rates dropped because most young people grew up with this information about the disease and how to protect oneself from it. But now this information campaign kind of moved into the background and young people now are a lot less aware of it. Infection rates are slowly going up again.



I am aware that the best protection is abstinence and being faithfull, but as reality shows people do not follow these rules, so other measures have to be taken in order to stop the disease from spreading.

Maybe some awareness campaigns aimed at men working here would be a good thing ,too in order to reach them before the infect themselves.

Answer 2

Hi,

It is a Taffy question. I know one case here UAE. One guy has got a TB-C the wife of him knows about it, that's why she left him and she went back to her country with her son, but the worst things is the guy has got a new GF and I know the GF, but I don't know, if he told her about his sickness.

The things is, as outsider we don't know what we shall do, shall we tell her or not.... It is like hey!! it's not your business.

This question is difficult to answer.

- Maybe if you are going to meet someone you shall let him/her do first the test.

- The doctor shall give an ultimatum to tell the person to her/his family that he/she is sick and after that the doctor shall inform the family membership.

- The doctor shall put a mark somewhere in the body... hey careful I've got HIV or ... :-).

- They shall inform the family or the Government why he/she is deported from the country. And they can also check the family, if the are not already infected.



Maybe it will help all the nation...

Answer 3

just a question, how do the children of these people come to die if they are already born?? (that was for the dirty joke part), or you forgot to specify that the children they would have in the future would be born contaminated.

more seriously, i believe that a medical condition is confidential unless you as the bearer decide to divulge it.

being HIV positive is not a crime and you get deported because you fail to comply with health standards in the UAE, KSA or GCC,as HIV pos are not allowed to enter the country or some similar law.

now when these people get deported, should we notify, i believe we do because this is the reason of deportation. should their own nations do something about it, clearly yes.

but as you said : countries from where labourers are deported are not necessarily the countries with the most efficient health systems and policy making in the world.

Answer 4

nothing much you can do, however there seem to be a cure for aids now.. fingers crossed.

the issue is whether there is data protection.



I believe that these people who are infected with whatever that can harm people for life or even kill them should not be protected and let free to infect others.



people should have health cards and everything written upon it, it's a risk for medical staff also if these people need some emergency or first aid and people get sick just because they help them.



ugly but true these people have nothing to live for and many a times get mean towards healthy people. one should take responsibility that he brought it upon him and the state should take action in protecting the citizens and other expats from these people

Answer 5

The solution to expat issues has to be solved diplomatically (no pun intended). While every country reserves the right to deport expats (and rightly so) for certain valid reasons, one has to set up a channel to inform the local consulate / embassy of the underlying reasons and potential threats of those who are deported.



Let us examine the Org structure of any consulate. You have a Consul for passport, Visa, Labour and for other issues like weddings etc. One has to establish a position for Special matters that include the setting up and managing of database of those being deported with communicable diseases. A quarantine facility also needs to be set up in the major hubs and deportation should be a coordinated effort.



For example, if a quarantine and rehabilitation center is set up in Mumbai, the UAE should not deport the person to Kerala, but insist that the person is sent to Mumbai with a confirmation that he / she is placed in proper custody.



This should be the first step forward. The same goes for white-collar crime. Those not repaying credit card and personal loans and running away.



My 0.02$

Answer 6

I think perhaps a health education course , in their local language, should be added to the visa requirement. Because in most these countries cheap laborers don't know anything about biology or virus transmission.



I saw 8 Indian guys using the same Diabetes blood sugar tester device without changing the pin on that thing (using same syringe to save money) . Now if one of them had some kind of STD they'd have all gotten it by now. (virus carried in blood on on syringe ) This is the kind of thing that should stop.

Answer 7

Family members should request the deported person to undergo a medical checkup immediately on arrival, before being taken into the family fold

Answer 8

well i live in UAE

and am sure but u guess UAE takes it as internal matter, the local people got locked for a while i guess untill they understand how to deal with it



usually people when they arrive at working visa got tested, when they got positive result they got locked and deported, plus a life ban from coming back



but who got negative result as far as i know they dont got Aids or HIV, or its slow processes, well thats what i know



well what am trying to say

usually people who got HIV are usually came with the infection there, if he is already got it, that means his wife and kids has it too



thats my point of view

Answer 9

its immaterial whether its a catholic church or any other church or atheists, or other religion follower. whoever it may be if there is a abuse of children then one needs to condemn it. some people just try to find fault in a particular faith and trying to justify that 'that's the reason they don't go to church'. we cannot help such kind of low thinking people. in fact secretly they too will be a child molesters.

Answer 10

hi

the best remedy for this is try to bring your man more closer to you,and in our family we used to have advisory classes,this really helped me,when every second day u advise ur kid and ur man then wen they go for theese things they will think of wat they have taught.



always make sure ur strict with ur kids and remind them of the cosequences.

family union is the best and last i will say for this problem.most of people change when u do theese things still if they continue then i really dont any further solution,since theese things can be stopped,its just us that keep going for theese dirty games

Answer 11

I want the UAE government to make annual AIDS test for local people. because here only foreigners check their blood every time they make a visa

Answer 12

what i know that when you get caught with this disease they don't just deport you .. they investigate with you whom you had sex with .. if you are married they will check all of your family (i mean wife and kids ) ,i heard of this story a handsome man whom had this disease and they investigated with him and they found many ladies that he met whom got AIDS too because of him .. but .. he didn't say their names easily .

and i believe this is the procedure now .

Answer 13

mi dispiace ma io non parlo inglese e ne anche lo capisco, io ti risponderei molto volentiere. ti saluto